Nov 20, 2019. #1. In response to some states that previously limited deer hunting to shotguns w/slugs or muzzleloaders but have now expanded the legal definition to include "straight walled' cartridges Winchester has introduced the 350 Legend. I've read that the basic cartridge is the .223/5.56mm that has had the shoulder straightened.The H&R and Henry .357 Magnum barrels are 1-16 twist. Chambered and crowned right, .357 Rem. Maximum is a superlatively accurate cartridge fired from anything from .355″ groove diameter barrels through .359″ and twist rates from 1-10 through at least 1-20 twist. A coin toss is probably as good a decider as personal subjectivity.The 357 Magnum has more potential energy than a 10mm AUTO. According to S.A.A.M.I, the 357 Magnum has more case capacity and higher max pressure. The 357 has a wider selection of bullets and fires at a greater velocity than the 10mm with the same weight bullets and penetrates marginally better. Both the .357 and 10mm have unique strengths and ...The diameter of a 450 Bushmaster is .452 inches, while that of a 350 Legend is about .3570. In diameter, a 350 Legend is more comparable to a .233 Remington. Knockdown power: A 450 bushmaster uses a 250-grain bullet. It has a muzzle velocity of 2100 fps with a muzzle energy of 2448 ft. lbs.Nov 28, 2023 · The best performance in the .357 Max comes with 1680 in a wide range of bullet weights. The Legend data on the Hodgdon site lists only the 180gr bullet. The max charge listed is 27gr at about 31kpsi. The starting charge is a lot less, and I wonder if it would even cycle an AR. So, you are on your own.The major difference between these two kinds of ammunition is the type of rifles they are commonly chambered in. 360 Buckhammer was designed for lever action or break open rifles, as well as revolvers. 350 Legend is most often found in AR-15, MSR type platforms, but is also available in bolt action rifles and some handguns.The 30-30 shoots a 150 Grain bullet at almost 2400 form the top loadings and 2200 from top 170 Grain loads. Its capable of excellent accuracy. With proper bullets, and with in responsible distances, the 30-30 is an excellent choice for light big game.. The 357 Maximum is a new comer.The versatility of the .350 Legend, which is equally at home in bolt-action and AR-15 type rifles, is part of its appeal. But it is also clear that the round's mild, yet effective, ballistics has also been a huge factor. The .360 Buckhammer has similar mojo. It is a little more potent than the .350 Legend, but not overpowering.But when compared to the 350 Legend, the 300 Blackout gets walked over. The 350 Legend can perform up to 240 yards while the 300 Blackout fails to reach a useful 200 yards range. In this category, the 350 Legend takes another win. If you want to continue reading about 300 Blackout, learn about 1-7 and 1-8 Twist Rate for 300 Blackout here.In comparison, the .350 Legend, using a .357-caliber bullet, is permitted in every state, while also delivering more projectile mass and energy to the target than the .223. For example, compare the .223 …Other options,357 Max, 360 buckhammer and 450 bushmaster, etc. the 350 legend is a 9mm (not .358") bullet in what is basically a straight 223 case. So no rim. It's specific brass, so you can't use 223 brass, but it's almost the same. Recoil is probably a bit more than a 357 mag as ballistics are similar to 357 Max.While the .360s are of .358 diameter, standard for 35-caliber rifle bullets for over a century, SAAMI’s spec for .350 Legend bullets is .355. “In production, that number is .357,” says Winchester’s Nathan Robinson. “There’s -.003 tolerance, per .357 Magnum bullets. Groove diameter in .350 Legend barrels is .355.”.The initial factory hunting load uses a .357-­inch, 150-­grain Deer Season Extreme Point (XP) bullet featuring a large polymer-­blend tip. The tip improved the bullet’s ballistic coefficient and ensures expansion …357 maximum vs 350 legend Ok guys in my mind two very similar cartridges so in your eyes who wins this A) 357 maximum B) 350 legend Why did you pick A)/B)? www.thehighroad.org Last edited: Dec 14, 2023. Dec 11, 2023 #9 #9 Dec 11, 2023. Reactions: Bad Bob. hueyville Well-known member. Bronze ...So, in the case of the 350 Legend bullet, the 0.357-0.003" specification means 0.357" is bullet diameter maximum and 0.354" is a ballistically performance-acceptable minimum. If you look at the 357 Magnum drawing, the jacketed bullet spec is 0.358"-0.003", or 0.355" to 0.358".As far as hunting loads go for the .357 Maximum, the bullet diameter is small enough that the bullet needs to either expand well upon impact, or have as much meplat as it can and still provide stable flight over all hunting distances. My favorite jacketed load for the .357 Maximum is the Hornady 180 grain XTP HP over 20.0 grains of IMR 4227.350 Legend is advertised the fastest straight-wall cartridge; a round tailor-made for deer hunters that want to use the AR 15 platform. But is that the whole...The SAAMI Maximum Average Pressure (MAP) for the .350 Legend is 55,000 psi, measured by piezoelectric transducer. This is exactly the same as the SAAMI MAP for the .223 Remington and 6.8 Remington SPC rounds, both designed specifically for AR-15s. This is considerably higher than the 40,000 psi MAP for the .357 Maximum handgun cartridge.The same component recipes I used in the 350 L were also used in reloading the 357 max. The 350 Legend did better in the 158gr jsp and better in the Lee 204gr gas checked. The 357 max did relatively better than the 350 L with the 180gr jsp Speer. I will post pictures later on that. Camba Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe 350 Legend and 223 Remington have different bullet diameters: the 350 Legend has a diameter of 0.357-0.003 in and the 223 has a diameter of 0.224 in. This difference also affects the neck diameter, with the 350 Legend having a diameter of 0.378 in and the 223 having a diameter of 0.253 in.I'm working up some loads for my sons 350 legend Savage Axis. I have the Lee 200-rf mold and have powder coated and sized them to .356 I have a full pound of Unique and would like to come up with a load for this thing in the 1400-1600 range. From personal experience I think this would make a good deer load for 100yards and under. Gordan's Reloading tool says: 10gr 1384fps 30k 10.5gr 1421fps ...Nov 21, 2020 · Post by edk onNov 21, 2020 at 3:31pm. Nov 21, 2020 at 6:42am bula said: After some googling and gulps of coffee, the Max case is 1.605" and SAAMI says 40K PSI. The 350 Legend case is 1.71" and SAAMI says 55K PSI. 357 Max used to be 50K PSI. All my load books and my TC Contender still seem to think so.The 350 Legend case is only about a tenth of an inch longer than the .357 Maximum and just .12-inch longer than the .357 Mag. The real difference is the 350 Legend's rimless design...The .350 Legend is essentially the equal of the .357 Maximum out of a rifle, but notably harder to reload as it is a headspace-on-the-mouth rimless cartridge. It performs a smidge better than the old .351 WSL cartridge (about 200 fps faster with 180 grain bullets) but about as much less than the .35 Remington loaded to SAAMI specs (~200 fps ...357 maximum vs 350 legend Ok guys in my mind two very similar cartridges so in your eyes who wins this A) 357 maximum B) 350 legend Why did you pick A)/B)? www.thehighroad.org Last edited: Dec 14, 2023. Dec 11, 2023 #9 #9 Dec 11, 2023. Reactions: Bad Bob. hueyville Well-known member. Bronze ...I'd buy a mass produced 357 max/357 AR Max (preferred if the brass doesn't stretch) boltgun in a heart beat. No lube, no trimming, perfect cast bullet caliber, suitable for squirrels on up. Basically the same as the 350 Legend, but the probably added the taper to the 350 to enhance feeding in ARs, however the taper ruined the ability to use 223 ...Brief History Of 350 Legend And 308 Winchester. 350 Legend is a relatively new cartridge designed by Winchester in 2019. It was built with the intention of providing a low-recoiling, short- to medium-range hunting cartridge. In contrast, 308 Winchester has been around since 1952 and has a long history of use in hunting and competitive shooting.Jul 12, 2019 · Its a pointed boolit also, that has very little drop out to 240 yards, its maximum potential for deer and smaller game. Advantage 2 over the 357 max is that Mike Bellm Is having a hard time getting the Max off the ground. It uses pistol boolits and the 350 legend has a designed rifle boolit and one is a hunting round.This .357 Magnum offering is new for 2021 and features a 127-grain bullet at a muzzle velocity of 1365 from a 6″ barrel (higher in a carbine-length barrel). Summary. Ammunition manufacturers are operating at full steam to catch up with the consumer run on ammo, but they are also still hard at work developing new loads.The .350 Legend's combination of power and accuracy makes it well-suited for deer hunting. Is the .350 Legend legal for deer hunting in all states? As of now, the .350 Legend is legal for deer hunting in most states, but it's always best to check local regulations. What type of bullets are commonly used with the .350 Legend for deer hunting?Jan 5, 2021 · The .350 Legend also has the other straight-wall cartridges beat in two additional categories: recoil and cost. Winchester (the company that developed the cartridge) lists the recoil energy of the .350 Legend at 8.52 foot-pounds (ft.-lbs.) using a 7-pound rifle. The .450 Bushmaster clocks in at 22.9 ft.-lbs. of energy using a 7-pound rifle, and ...The 6.5 Grendel is a bottleneck cartridge that shoots a 123-grain bullet at 2580 fps. 350 Legend is 35 caliber and 6.5 Grendel is 26 caliber. 6.5 Grendel has a longer effective range. Both have similar muzzle energy and very low recoil. The 6.5 Grendel and 350 Legend are two polar opposites. The best choice greatly depends on your personal ...The world of firearms is always evolving, and as it does, new cartridges emerge to push the boundaries of what is possible. Two of the latest entrants in this arena are the 300 Blackout and the 350 Legend.In this article, we will explore the similarities, differences, and unique features of both cartridges, and compare them across a range of factors, including ballistics, performance, and pricing.The 350 Legend fires .355-inch 9mm bullets (357 Magnum and 35 Remington using .357-inch, 35-caliber rifles, like the 35 Whelen firing .358-inch bullets) and delivers energy on par with the ancient 35 Remington or 30-30 Winchester. ... Bumping up to a maximum load of 25.5 grains resulted in a sub-MOA group with just 46 fps additional velocity ...Being you have a Legend it’s easiest ya just go legend again. Maxi has ya needed different brass and bullets. Maxi shoots all 357 Mag and the light end of the 35 rem/358 / 35 Whelen bullets. IMHO on game a 180 is where it’s at. But a 200 FTX or good Cast might prove almost as ideal.Horandy's .357" 140 grain FTX (Flexible Tip Expanding) bullet appears optimized for lever-action rifles chambered in 357 magnum. A flexible tip protects against the dangers associated with a pointed bullet tip resting against a live primer in tubular magazine rifles. According to Hornady, this multi-purpose bullet is suitable for personal ...Maximum Cartridge Overall Length (C.O.L.) is set at 2.260"—identical to that of .223 Rem.—meaning that 350 Legend will fit in .223 Rem.-length actions without issue. Maximum average...A .30-30 will do everything the Herrett cartridge will do, with none of the hassle and you have the added versatility of being able to use factory ammo. And for hogs, you re not going to make uber-long shots that require a spitzer type bullet, so a 150 or 170 factory load will do the job like gangbusters.Comparing the .350 Legend to the .223 Rem., we see both having a maximum chamber pressure of 55,000 pounds per square inch (psi) and both using about 21 grains of powder. By the time the bullet gets to the end of a 20-­inch barrel, the volume of the bore is considerably different between the two rounds.357 Maximum has some data for 200 gr bullets and N120. 357 Max is very close to Legend in case capacity. However, a 250 gr bullet is quite a bit different than a 200 gr. Handgun reloading data | Loads for pistol calibers | Handloads | Pistol powders | Reload your own ammo - Vihtavuori ... Hornady has some data for 350 Legend and the 250 gr, but ...Henry Single Shot .350 Legend. Henry's singe-shot in .350 Legend joins the .450 Bushmaster as the two additions to the company's single-shot line in 2021. The matte-blued .350 Legend is fitted ...The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. I have a MGM barrel 24" ProHunter Contour 1:14 twist which allows me to shoot 180 grain bullets and above extremely well. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps.This is a rifle round, not a lengthened .357 handgun round. So the 350 Legend really needs proprietary bullets to be successful with reloaders. ... The moniker ".357 Max AR" stuck with the round for 3 reasons, 1) it was a 5.56 case expanded to straightwall, maximizing its capacity, 2) it uses load data very similar to the 357 Maximum rimmed ...How many of you replacing 357 rifles w/350 Legend? 15201890 09/07/20. Joined: Feb 2007The same component recipes I used in the 350 L were also used in reloading the 357 max. The 350 Legend did better in the 158gr jsp and better in the Lee 204gr gas checked. The 357 max did relatively better than the 350 L with the 180gr jsp Speer. I will post pictures later on that. Camba Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThe design is rather simple. Winchester took a .357 diameter bullet and stuffed it into a 1.71 inch-long .223 case. With a 180-grain bullet, they got a muzzle velocity of 2,199fps and 1,762 ft. lbs of energy. Speed drops off to 1,466fps at 200 yards, so the bullet is still moving along well, giving the .350 Legend some decent oomph. This is one ...The biggest difference between 300 Blackout and 350 Legend is the cartridge design differences. The 300 Blackout is a bottleneck cartridge. Right off the …Digital Now Included! Subscribe Now. Put the .357 Maximum Where It Works. In single-shot firearms, .35-caliber rifle bullets are great performers in the .357 Maximum cartridge. Originally intended as a …Point of clarification here - despite the truth the SAAMI bore and groove spec for the .350 Legend are .346"/.355", which sure seems to match what we know of the 9mm to be a .355" bullet. However, the BORE spec and bullet spec are different things. The Legend has the same bore and groove spec as 357mag and 38special.The following ammunition cartridge ballistics information and chart can be used to approximately compare .357 Magnum vs .40 S&W ammo rounds. Please note, the following information reflects the estimated average ballistics for each caliber and does not pertain to a particular manufacturer, bullet weight, or jacketing type. As such, the following is for comparative information purposes only and ...The .350 Legend case is a straight-wall case with a slightly tapered body so that it will reliably feed in a bolt-action or semiautomatic rifle. It's also rimless and headspaces on the case mouth. According to its SAAMI specs, the maximum average pressure (MAP) is 55,000 psi, so unlike similarlyWe can look at Barnes VOR-TX 350 Legend 170-grain TSX and Federal Fusion 350 Legend 160-grain FSP to better understand muzzle energy. The Barnes bullet leaves the barrel at 1,704 ft-lbs and drops below 1,000 ft-lbs at 100 yards. On the other hand, the Federal Fusion has 1,879 ft-lbs at the muzzle and drops to 1,041 ft-lbs of energy at 200 yards.3 seperate times last fall I found brass at the range laying around. I've seen the LGS post 350 Legend ammo for sale a number of times and have never seen a .357 Max cartridge out in the wild. 357 Max is basically known for it's flame cutting and everyone dropping the cartridge. Not really a great legacy.View SKU Product Name Caliber Technology Weight (gr) VIEW: 09400100SP.400 caliber, 100 grain Xtreme Defense Lead-Free Bullets : 10mm AutoIn comparison, the .350 Legend, using a .357-caliber bullet, is permitted in every state, while also delivering more projectile mass and energy to the target than the .223. For example, compare the .223 …To help understand the 350 Legend, let's look at the ballistics of the Winchester Super-X load: Bullet Diameter: .357 inches (All 350 Legend) Shell Case Length: 1.71 inches (All 350 Legend) Bullet Size: 180 grain. Muzzle Velocity: 2,100 fps. Muzzle Energy: 1,762 foot-pounds.The straight-walled .350 Legend immediately piques the interest of hunters, as it will be legal in 47 of 50 states with its design. The true straight wall is not necked up and would make it the fastest straight wall cartridge on the market. The bullet diameter is .357 inches with a shell case length of 1.71 inches.Apr 13, 2021 · The 350 Legend is a fascinating cartridge. If you sit the 350 Legend side by side with a 5.56 round, you'll notice they are roughly the same length. The nominal rim diameter is identical as well, but the 350 Legend does not use the 5.56 as its parent case like the 300 Blackout. Winchester designed the cartridge from the ground up.The .350 Legend is the latest straight-walled cartridge to make waves on the hunting scene. This round was designed by Winchester primarily to address some perceived shortcomings associated with the .450 Bushmaster. A prime selling point of the .350 Legend is that it boasts low recoil and low expense when compared directly to the …The 350 Legend is 80 percent more powerful than a .357 Magnum and is effective on deer twice as far away. Most 350 Legend bullets have a higher sectional density which means more penetration than the .357 Magnum. The 350 Legend is faster, more powerful, and can be used in more guns than the .357 Magnum.The .360 Buckhammer vs. 350 Legend. The 350 Legend is another straight-walled cartridge great for whitetail deer hunting in the Midwest. However, there are some notable differences between Winchester's 350 Legend and Remington's .360 BHMR. To start, the 350 Legend has slightly less recoil. It's also designed for AR-style rifles, while the ...Winchester's .350 Legend was introduced in 2019 and met all straight-­wall criteria. AR-­compatible, it was also designed for ease of manufacturing, using the .223 Rem./5.56mm rim and base. The Legend called for a .357-­inch bullet. American ".35-­caliber" rifle cartridges have generally used a .358-­inch bullet.Brief History Of 350 Legend And 308 Winchester. 350 Legend is a relatively new cartridge designed by Winchester in 2019. It was built with the intention of providing a low-recoiling, short- to medium-range hunting cartridge. In contrast, 308 Winchester has been around since 1952 and has a long history of use in hunting and competitive shooting.